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Sausset Leou

Sausset Leou is an architecture practice founded by Kim and Rémy, born from a shared affinity for a poetic, vernacular, and radical approach to spatial design. The duo first began collaborating during their architectural studies at ENSA Paris Val de Seine, developing alternative design projects through shared studio workshops.

Defined by a rigorous sensibility and a precise form of poetry, Sausset Leou combines formal discipline with narrative freedom, rejecting hierarchies between architectural typologies. Each project is conceived as a sensitive reinterpretation of the histories of places and people, with the ambition of making beauty accessible to all without distinction.

Sausset Leou Portrait
© Selma Rossard

“A building lives and ages. The life of a building should be considered during the design process.”

INTERVIEW

How would you describe your design style as an architect?

An introspective style. It depends on the client, but there is nevertheless a certain sense of sacrality that tends to emerge in our projects.

How did your journey into architecture start? Did you always know you wanted to work as an architect?

KIM:
My path toward architecture began with my artistic practice of drawing—especially landscape and perspective drawing. I also grew up in the modernist housing complex by Roland Schweitzer in the 12th arrondissement of Paris, almost like a city within the city: I played there as a child, took sports classes there, and lived there. I did not always know I wanted to become an architect, but what ultimately led me there was my creativity and my practice of design.

RÉMY:
Being born into a family of architects, I always tried not to become one. Eventually I gave in, and I’m very comfortable with it now. Vézelay is an important starting point for me—an example of the harmony of architectural layers over time, notably with the house of Jean Badovici and Eileen Gray. I believe that is what convinced me to continue in this direction.

What guides your very first steps in conceiving a building, and how do you translate a client’s vision into architectural form?

We tend to orient our practice more toward renovation and design. For each project, dialogue is the foundation of every drawing. We try to create a narrative thread based on the information the client gives us, but also on what emerges from our conversations with them.

We are interested in everything that surrounds and constitutes the project. In a way, we try to listen to the client and to the context in an almost psychoanalytic manner. From these elements we weave a narrative, which we then translate into spaces, materials, and details—while always keeping an eye on the overall composition.

Your practice moves between architecture, exhibition design, and object design. How do you maintain a sense of continuity across these different forms of work?

We see each project as a whole—a pretext to address all scales. Because of this, continuity is maintained quite naturally. There are constant back-and-forth movements between scales to ensure coherence, and the composition becomes global, at every level.

Our practice also involves a lot of drawing by hand, which itself provides continuity across all scales.

When designing a piece of furniture or an installation, do you approach it differently from a building, or does it follow a similar architectural logic?

We approach it in the same way, defining our creative space through constraints and then using those constraints to our advantage.

It is also important to emphasize the importance of delegation when necessary and to listen to all the people involved in realizing a project depending on the scale—craftspeople, workers, builders. As Álvaro Siza once said, architects know how to do nothing, but they must understand everything and connect everything.

Could you tell us about one of your projects that you are most proud of, and share what it is about this project that is exciting?

The apartment on Rue de Bellechasse is especially meaningful to us because it exemplifies a truly established dialogue between the client and ourselves.

What is the part of your work as an architect that you enjoy the least?

Architecture itself, because it often consists of trying to fit a circle into a square. The architect is at the center of many problems and often takes responsibility when things don’t work. But it is paradoxical, because that is also what makes the profession beautiful.

Is there a motto that resonates in all your designs? A mantra that you live by when building?

You can spend as much time drawing a soap dish as you would designing a building. We can’t remember which architect said that.

It must be hard to choose from, but what are your favorite architectural works in the world, and could you tell us why?

KIM:
My favorite architectural work is the Prehistory Museum by Roland Simounet in Nemours. I think I have visited it more than five times. It demonstrates a mastery of form, space, and light while maintaining a dialogue between objects and their environment, which creates a total and rigorous work in my opinion.

Another project that deeply marked me is the Pedregulho housing complex by Eduardo Affonso Reidy in Rio de Janeiro, which moves seamlessly from the domestic scale to the landscape. Many Brazilian modernist buildings—by Lina Bo Bardi, Oscar Niemeyer, and Paulo Mendes da Rocha—evoke for me the hope of a certain era and what might have changed for the world.

RÉMY:
The Château de Ratilly is a place that is very dear to me. From the outside, it appears as a medieval castle with all the characteristics of the period—towers, moats, a fortified gate—but inside, the courtyard is a domestic and welcoming space. The architecture recreates a kind of public square.

One characteristic I appreciate in this building is its ambivalence: the power of proportions to give atmosphere to a space and therefore to generate emotions.

What are your inspirations? Is there a place, a figure, or an activity that always fuels your inspiration or always re-centers you?

They are numerous and rooted in our respective origins: Burgundy for Rémy and French Polynesia for Kim, both of which are strong anchors to the world for each of us.

More specifically, the works of our friends—creators and artists—allow us to stay grounded and to take the temperature of the world.

What do you think the new architectural projects of today need the most? Or asked differently, what is something that the buildings of today lack the most?

Details and attention. A project should not be reduced to a photograph taken before its inauguration. A building lives and ages. The life of a building should be considered during the design process. Trying to understand how a project will age when we draw it is something we must not forget.

Finally, what would be an advice that you wish someone had told you as you were starting out?

There were many things we lacked at the beginning: relational skills, methodology, and patience.

Thank you so much Rémy and Kim, for this lovely interview!

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